Followed By Mercy
The Followed By Mercy Podcast
Real Grace, Honest Hope
You might notice a new name and a fresh look, but the heart behind this podcast is the same. After years as the World Evangelism Podcast, I sensed God leading me to a deeper, more personal path centered on His relentless mercy and the kind of honest hope that can reach into every hurting place. That’s why this show is now called Followed By Mercy Podcast. The format may shift, and the tone may be a bit more personal, but my mission hasn’t changed: I still believe the world desperately needs to hear the good news of God’s love in Jesus Christ. You are welcome here if you’ve been with me from the beginning or just found us now.
What if God’s love is more personal, stubborn, and relentless than you ever imagined?
Welcome to The Followed By Mercy Podcast, where we get honest about pain, hope, and the kind of grace that finds you right where you are, five days a week. This isn’t about religious performance or church routines. It’s for anyone who’s ever felt worn out, unseen, or unsure if they belong in the story of God’s love. Every conversation is rooted in this reality: God loves you right now, just as you are, and He isn’t giving up on you.
Here’s what you’ll find in every episode:
Experience God’s Relentless Love
Every show starts by reminding you that the Shepherd knows your name, cares about your story, and isn’t offended by your failures or questions. This is personal—it’s about God’s unwavering affection for you.
Find Your Place in His Heart
Once you grasp how fiercely you’re loved, sharing that love with others doesn’t feel forced. It becomes the most natural thing in the world. Real grace overflows.
Prayer That Changes You
We pray together—not just for the world “out there,” but for the battles and hopes you’re carrying right now. These prayers are honest, rooted in Scripture, and meant for hearts that need a gentle touch from the Shepherd.
Discover Your Unique Role
Whether you’re called to go, give, serve, or show kindness in your corner of the world, God’s mercy meets you where you are. You’re not just a bystander. You are His beloved, invited into the story He’s writing.
When life knocks the wind out of you, this is a place to catch your breath. You’ll hear the encouragement that meets you on your hardest days, and your honest questions will be welcomed. No pretending, no heavy-handed advice—just the reminder that your Shepherd is right there with you, walking every step with you, even when you feel like giving up.
Why does this matter? Because some days, it feels like nobody sees you or cares what you’re going through. But the truth is, you have a Shepherd who never takes His eyes off you, lets you slip through the cracks, and never gives up on you. That kind of love can put you back on your feet, and it might be the hope someone else is waiting to see in you, too.
If you’re longing for more than just religious talk—if you want to know you’re not alone and that God’s mercy is following you all the way home, you’re in the right place. Whether you listen in the car, on a walk, or in a quiet moment, let every episode remind you: God’s mercy is after you right now, ready to bring real grace and honest hope.
Subscribe today and join a community to discover what happens when loved people become loving people. The journey’s just beginning, and there’s a place for you here.
Followed By Mercy
The Father’s Heart: Mercy, Not Condemnation
What if the most famous verse in the Bible has been hiding a radical truth in plain sight that God’s default posture toward the world is mercy, not condemnation?
In this episode, we trace a clear line from Exodus 34 to John 3:16 to 2 Corinthians 5 and see the Father revealing His own heart: merciful, gracious, slow to anger, and rich in steadfast love. Psalm 23 becomes the lens through which we see that same Father lifting our heads when shame and fear weigh us down.
We talk honestly about years in ministry and a season of illness that brought everything back to the basics. “God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself” becomes more than theology; it’s the beating heart of the gospel. The cross isn’t an angry Father punishing an innocent Son. It’s the Father Himself bearing our pain and inviting us into His work of reconciliation.
Watch the heart of God in the actions of Jesus: seeing the unseen, lifting the fallen, forgiving the guilty, calling the unlikely. From the tax collector in the tree to the woman caught in adultery, the message is consistent—rescue over condemnation, presence over distance, grace over performance.
That same grace reshapes how we see world evangelism. If the gospel is truly good news, then prayer, generosity, and going are not burdens to bear but joys that love inspires. Galatians 2:20 reminds us that Christ now lives in us, and His compassion is reflected in our choices, prayers, and even our financial decisions.
We close with a prayer:
Father in heaven, please do a work today. Bring honor and glory to Your name. Motivate us to give what You want us to give, to go where You call us to go, and to live in a way that shows the world Your mercy.
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Week after having eaten lunch and everything else. I'm sure glad to be with you on a Saturday and to see your interest in world evangelism. So thank you all very much. I will take you to a great Bible verse for world admissions. Open your Bible to John 3 16. John 3 16. You might not have ever heard this verse. It might be a new one for you. I really prayed over what to talk with you about. I wanted it to be a blessing. I wanted it to be something that would touch you. And but you know, missions conferences ought to be about hope, about love, not about religion, not about rules, not about guilt, but about how good our God is. Because that's what world evangelism is. It's world good news. It's letting people know that God loves them. Without them doing anything, paying anything, being anything, God loves them. So I'm going to take you to John 3.16. Just three real quick points, but I I may have a little bit of a problem finishing. Because the Bible says, for God, I'm not going to stop right there. I don't think we know him. I didn't know him for a long time. And I've been in the ministry, full-time ministry 52 years. And before that, I started preaching as 15. That was a long time ago. And I grew up with a God that saved me, that loved me, but that sure expected a lot of me. I grew up with getting saved by grace. And we would have said it was grace all the way through, but it was like grace getting started, and you better work your rear off. That's kind of the second half of that. And so therefore, sometimes I don't think I knew him. Basically fell apart. The cancer came back for the third time. And basically this time it was like, look, you shouldn't have lived this long, so we don't know what's going to happen. So I spent months meditating on Psalm 23. It's, I don't know how the Holy Spirit brought it into my life and made me go to that. I mean, I knew the passage like you do. But I spent, I don't know, two weeks, three weeks on the Lord. Just the Lord. The Lord is my shepherd. How about this? But God, for God so loved the world? God. Who is God? And I think there's a caricature of God in our eyes. I think we have, I would have never said this, you know, but I think in a lot of ways I had the same God that lost people have: a rule keeper, a referee, a guy who's going to judge me someday. All my good and bad is going to be brought out before Him. God was kind of angry, kind of upset, kind of hard to please. I mean, I used to preach in proof. I preached 10, at least 10 times a week. Every Sunday I preached six times for two or three years. Six times on Sunday. I preached eight o'clock, nine o'clock, eleven o'clock, four o'clock, six o'clock, seven thirty. For real. Different churches. So I was pastored three churches at the same time, and I was in all of that. But it and it did I do enough? Did I do enough? Did I measure up? And so I got into Psalm 23, and for the but for the Lord is my shepherd. And so I began to do a study, and that's in Psalm or in Exodus 34. In Exodus chapter 34, in verse 6, God introduces himself. And he introduces himself in a way I found shocking for the Old Testament. You know, most Christians would agree that the God of the Old Testament was a little bit austere, a little bit stern, a little bit hard, and the God of the New Testament seemed to be a nicer God. That's not true. That's not true. But I mean, I just think that's kind of what we kind of think. There's a lot of rules in the Old Testament, a lot of grace in the New Testament. Old Testament's law and New Testament's grace. The fact is, it's fact, the facts are it's all grace. It's all the grace of God. But when God and Moses are talking, you know, one time Moses says to God, he said, How do I, who do I tell them you are? And God says, I am that I am. And so God's name, he said, and that's always my name. I am is always my name. So when you read, For God so loved the world, it's for I am loves the world because that's who he is. I am. But then I was in Exodus chapter 34 and verse 6, and God tells Moses who he is. He comes down, he kind of walks in front of Moses, and he starts yelling, Who, this is who I am. You know, you don't know a person. You know his reputation, you know what people say about him, you know what's on social media, you have an idea, but you didn't ask the person about it at all. And that's about how we know God sometimes. We know God by what we've heard, by what somebody said, but we haven't said, won't you tell us who you are? In Exodus 34, 6, he tells us who he is. You know what he says? He said, I am merciful. That's the first word he uses in Exodus. Exodus, that's where he gave the Ten Commandments. That's where he starts all of it. And he starts off with, I am merciful. Then he says, I am gracious. And what was really funny is when you look that up in the Hebrew, the word gracious is a synonym for merciful. So basically, when God introduces himself, God says, Uh, y'all won't know me. Okay, I am merciful and I am merciful. And then he says, I am long-suffering. And long-suffering is I am extremely patient. In fact, is in the Hebrew the word long-suffering has an idiom that goes with a saying, and it's long-nosed. God is basically saying, I'm I'm long-nosed. And what long nosed meant was, you know how when you get mad and you start breathing real quick because you're mad, that's a short nose. And God's like, I got under control, I'm not getting mad. I'm the God of mercy, I'm the God of mercy. I'm not being redundant, I'm just telling you, I'm mercy and I'm mercy, and I don't get mad easy. And I don't get mad easy. And he just continues to go on in that. So I want you to go with me to John 3.16 and just for a few minutes, let's get the father's heart. Let's get our father's heart. If I could get you to see anything, that's what I'd like to say to you. For God so loved the world. By the way, when I was preaching Psalm 23, the Lord is my shepherd, you know he's a lot more than just a shepherd for us. See, in the Old Testament, they didn't use the word father very much. Like two times in the Old Testament, this implication that God's the Father. But when Jesus teaches his guys how to pray, he said, let's just start off like this. Our Father. No, no, no. It's a lot more than that. Because it's Jesus, he can say our father. But he looks at the boys and says, Y'all can too. Our father. Amen. Our father, which art in heaven. And so the Lord is my shepherd. For God so loved the world. For God so loved the world. I want you to get with me just a minute the Father's heart. For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son. Now, I am the dad of four absolutely fantastic, wonderful children. I have, I am honestly more blessed than I should ever be. And then I have 20 grandkids. Betty and I have 20 grandkids. And we have two great-grandkids and one on the way. I think that's how it goes. And I love being a dad and a granddad. It's like my third greatest accomplishment. My first one was that I accepted the grace and goodness of my God. The second was I married the most wonderful woman in the world. And the third thing is God gave us the family. But do you realize what God says? For God so loved, so loved God the world, that God loves so much that word equal could be changed to, that word that could be changed an equal son. If you want to know how much God loves you, look at the price he's willing to pay for you. If you want to know how much God values you, look at the value he places on you. And the value he places on us and on the entire world is his son. My oldest son's 50. My youngest son's about to turn 40. And I'll be honest with you, I wouldn't kill either one of them for any of y'all. Or all of you. Fact is, if a whole world had to die, or my son, sorry. I like my son a lot. Can I get an amen? But God looked at you and God looked at me and God said, I'll give my son. All you got to do is accept the gift. All you got to do is believe. The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God's eternal life. And so on one side of the equation, on one side of the equation, we got if you do what you want to do, it's going to bring death. If you live for you, it's going to bring death. But if you'll just trust what Jesus did, whosoever believed in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. God wants everybody to enjoy living forever, forever, everlasting life. Eternal life. God wants everybody to enjoy that. By the way, he says, world. For God so loved the world. For God so loved the world. God loves everybody. God loves the Hindus and God loves the Islamic people and God loves the atheist people and God loves even Baptist people. Say amen. Thank God for some of that Baptist love. Amen. But God loves us because God is love. For God so loved the world. Somewhere along the way, we kind of accepted that God's angry because we're sinners. And that God's out to get us. But this verse starts off, for God so loved the world that He gave us. God's not angry. From the very beginning, when Adam and Eve first sinned, the father said, I'm going to pay a price for that. I'm going to accept the guilt that they've done. I'm going to take their mess ups, and I'm going to give my life for them. And that's when the lamb dies. And that's when he makes the promise. Someday one of you ladies is going to have a baby, and that baby's going to crush the head of the serpent. So from the very beginning, it's been God. Salvation starts with God. None of us ever asked God to save us first. None of us ever loved God first. So I want to tell you that the Father loves us. I don't mean to be rude, but sometimes we think the Father's kind of stern. And Jesus is kind of nice. And Jesus kind of offsets the Father. And that's not true. And boy, if you've worked in a Roman Catholic society like I did, you know, if you can't talk straight to the Father, talk to his mother. Talk to a cousin, talk to somebody, talk to some saint, let them pass it up. There's a there's a in Atikipa, there's a a painting in the Catholic nunnery, and it shows a person praying and passing a petition up, and it goes angels, angels, and saints and saints, and finally gets to Mary, and Mary passes it to Jesus. And because you know you can't talk to God. But in all honesty, for God so loved the world. In verse 17, I don't know how this is all world evangelism. Verse 17 says, for God sent not his son into the world to condemn the world. Do you understand? You understand that God's not the one that sends people to hell? You understand that God didn't give me cancer? We blame God for everything. I don't know why God's doing this to me. That's maybe the God they taught us about, but that's not the God of the Bible. The God of the Bible, He built a paradise that was perfect and beautiful and wonderful and put the tree of life right in the middle of it and said, Hey, come down here and enjoy it. And in the afternoon, he used to come down and walk with Adam and Eve in the garden. Can you imagine in the afternoon when Jesus is coming down and walk with Adam? He says, Adam, tell me what you think of that giraffe. I made that for you, buddy. And then one day all of a sudden Adam has sinned and they're hidden themselves, but it was God that loved them. God didn't send all this on us. Sin did, but God didn't. And then notice this the Son came not to condemn us. God has never wanted to condemn you. Sin, the wages of sin is death. The wages of sin is death. But the gift of God is eternal life. He sent not his son into the world to condemn the world. Let me real quickly take you to 2 Corinthians chapter 5. Because I've got a lot I really want to share with you. But in 2 Corinthians chapter 5, we find some very interesting things. Look at verse 18. Now listen to this. Everybody, all things are already taken care of. Look at verse 18. All things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and has given to us the ministry of reconciliation. All things are of God. And notice who did the reconciling in verse 18. Who God hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ. Do you know how God made peace? He let Jesus take our consequences. He let Jesus take the payment for our sins. He let Jesus take that on him. And then he turns to us and says, I give y'all the ministry of telling everybody that they can be reconciled. Now look at verse 19. To wit that God was in Christ, reconciling the world, as though God did. Let's stop with this. It says, God was in Christ, reconciled the world unto himself. Now listen to this. God loves you so much that God was in Christ. Look at the verse. God was in Christ. It wasn't an angry father beating up a poor, innocent son. It was God saying, I love the Hindus, I love the Muslims, I love the people, I love people everywhere, and God Himself. It was God from God who came to die on a cross. God. God came. And God was born of a virgin. And God lived among us. And God died on a cross. And God paid the sin debt. And God was buried. And God rose again. And God knows you and God understands you. And God hurts with you. And he hurts with the Chinese atheist. He hurts with everyone who wants them to be saved. He's not a one who can't be touched with the feelings of our infirmities. But look at what it says in verse 19. Reconciling the world unto himself. Are you ready for this? He's already paid the price. It's all paid for. Reconciling the world unto himself. He's already gone and said, hey, it's all paid for. Everybody in the world, it's all paid for. In fact, is in one place Paul writes and says, He's the Savior of the world. Especially those that believe. You see, because Jesus paid it all. God was in Christ, and God died, and God was buried, and God rose again. Look at verse 19. Not imputing their trespasses unto them. Not imputing, not counting their sins on their account. Did you know that when God looks at the worst person on the planet, he doesn't see their sin? One of my favorite parts of Psalm 23. One of my favorite parts of Psalm 23 is it says, He anointeth my head with oil. And I was doing a deep, deep study in the Hebrew dictionaries and all trying to find out what that meant. And one of the beautiful things that takes you back to Psalm chapter 3, he's the lifter of my head. Anointing your head with oil was him refreshing you and putting the oil on your head and then lifting your head. You know what God does? God wants to look you eyeball to eyeball, and he's already paid all the price. Like he took all your sin, it's all behind, it's all on the cross, it's all been paid for. Your sin, past and present, and future is all taken care of. No more heavy, heavy hangs over your head, because heavy, heavy hung on Jesus on the cross of Calvary. And basically, David in Psalm 23 is at the bottom of the barrel. His life is over, his son's about to kill him, his best friend's out there with him, his whole life is falling apart. And as his life falls apart, the father, David, starts meditating on the Lord is my shepherd. And he says, He anoints my head. And what it means, he lifts my head and says, It's okay between us. I don't care what you've done, I paid for it. I don't care how you failed, I paid for it. And he says, Everything's okay. We can talk face to face, cheek to cheek. For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son. And then he says that we are reconciled. We are reconciled. It says he committed the word of reconciliation. And now we go out to people, and all we do is ask them if they would trust God. So who's the Father? The Father, the heart of the Father. I want you to know that God loves every person everywhere on this planet. I think you know that. For God so loved the world. For God so loved everybody. For God loved the poor and the and the rich, and God loved the the black from the black skin to the white skin, and God loved, and God loved men and women, and God loved sinners. I don't have time. I'm already messed up. If you want to know how God is, all you gotta do is look at Jesus. In John 14, Jesus says, Hey, let not your hearts be troubled. Believe in God, believe also in me. I'm about to go be with my father. And Philip looks in and says, Well, just show us the Father, would you? And Jesus says, I've been this long with you and you ain't figured it out. When you see me, you're seeing the Father. Ho, ho! And so here's a tax collector that no one else would talk to, and he's up a tree, but Jesus, on purpose, stopped at that tree and hiding in the bushes and hiding up there, and Jesus looks up at him and says, I'm gonna eat supper with you tonight. Get on down, buddy. Or Jesus walks into a place, and Matthew's a is a Matthew is a tax collector, and that's a hated vermin. The worst you could possibly be. There's nobody worse than that. He's turned on his own people. He's sold out the Jewish people to the Roman people, and he's making money off of them, and he's profiting off of them, and no one ever would say his name, and no one even looks at him. They look past him, they don't look at him. They see through him, but they don't see him. He's a nobody, he's a non-entity till Jesus looks at him. All he does is look at him, he sees him, he sees you, and he sees everybody else around the world. And he wants everyone to know salvation. He came to rescue us. Jesus didn't come to condemn, he came to rescue us. They bring a woman taken in adultery to Jesus, and they want to put him on trial. They want to see what he's going to do. How will he respond? This woman's been caught in the very act of adultery. And Jesus says, Where are your accusers? I don't condemn you either. In 1 John chapter 4 and verse 10, the Bible says, Hearing is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his son to be the sin payment, the propitiation for our sins. Verse 19 says, We love him because he first loved us. And so when you look at the Bible, the Bible says, For God so loved the world. And I need to remind you, because somewhere along the way, churches even get a little bit standoffish and a little bit like Pharisees, because somebody comes in and they don't look like us or dress like us or act like us and we begin to be judgmental and critical and condemning. I know you don't, but some churches do. But that's not who the Lord wants us to be. You know, do you know how he saved you? In Romans chapter 5, verse 6. You know how he saved all of us? When we were yet without strength. When we couldn't do anything to save ourselves, we couldn't do anything to rescue ourselves. When we were ungodly, when we were anti-God, that's when He saved us. In Romans 5, 8, when we were still sinning, that's when He saved us. Sometimes along the way we kind of forget what God's done. And what God is doing. He has loved us and sought us out. And while we were still sinners, He saved us. It kind of reminds me of the Father. When I think about the Father, Jesus told story after story to illustrate his father. He wanted us to know what his father was like, what his dad was like, because he came to show us the father. He came to show us the father. For God, the Father, so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, but we don't know God. We don't know who he is. We don't see him enough. And so he told a story about a dad whose son said, I wish he was dead. I'd like to have my money now. Give me my inheritance. I'm out of here. I'm checking out. And the dad gave him the money. And the boy ran and he wasted all the money doing wicked and vile things. And he comes home. And when he gets home, the boy is fully expecting to be able to beg and plead and confess. And he substance, he's got a whole list of speech prepared to make to the father. But as he gets close to the house, the dad is watching for him and in love with him. And the dad comes running off the porch and runs down the pathway. And old men don't run, and old men don't do that. But he runs to him and he picks him up and he starts kissing him and dancing around in a circle and he's crying and hugging his son and starts yelling and he's yelling, hey, let's have a party. My boy came home. He didn't ask for any conditions. Son, you do right for six months, and I'll let you back into family. Son, here's a list of rules you got to obey. He didn't do any of that. He just said, I love you. That's our father. We have to get the heart of our father. We have to get a hold of who he is. We haven't seen the father. So we look at Jesus. Second thing I'd like you to show you real quickly is we need deliverance from the lie about God and Jesus. We need deliverance from the lie. The Son did not come into the world to condemn the world. The world was already condemned. Sometimes our gospel preaching is almost like hanging over hell on a grapevine, and you're about to fall into hell and burn because God's angry. God came here because the wages of sin is death, and that's what we were getting. And Jesus came to bring life and to change lives and to change people. We were condemned already. Humans are the ones who chose to walk away. Humans. And I think there's a big problem. In Colossians chapter 1 and verse 21, it says that we were alienated and enemies in our minds. Colossians 1, 21. Alienated and enemies in our mind by wicked works. See, we've twisted who they are, who God the Father is, who God the Son is, and who God the Holy Spirit is. We've twisted the blood, the world, the God of this world has blinded the minds of people. And so they don't know him. So all around the world, God, by whatever name he's going to be, Allah, God, whether it's going to be Muhammad, whoever it is, everybody's got this bad attitude about the, you know, God's kind of rough on us, but that's not the story in the Bible. The story of the Bible is God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son. He gave his only begotten son. That whosoever believed him should not perish. He didn't want anybody to die and go to hell. So that brings me to the last thing, and I'll say it to you quickly. What's that got to do with the missions conference? The last thing I want to do is guilt you into anything. The last thing I want to do is bully you into doing anything. But you know, when you start thinking about how much you're loved, I've been married to this girl for 52 years. And all 52 years, you know how many rules we've had? None. But I do put the toilet seat down. Can I get an amen? It's not a rule. But I know what pleases her. Can I get an amen? And so all I'm saying to you is, all I'm saying to you is my love for her drives me. I think her love for me drives her. And when you realize how much God loves you, then the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts and it's going to go out to everybody else. So here's what we do: Galatians 2.20. I am crucified with Christ. I'm dead. The day, hey, Jesus died. You died in him, and you were buried in him, and you rose again in him. Romans chapter 6, Galatians chapter 2, and verse 20, and we have new life through Jesus. I am crucified with Christ. I'm dead, but I'm not dead. Christ is living in me. Now, here's a question I would ask you. If Jesus were alive in us today, and he is, whether we accept it or not, whether we see it or not, whether we believe it or not, if you're a Christian, Christ in you is the hope of glory. But if he's in you right now, what y'all reckon he'd want to do about the mission's conference? I mean, he's alive in me. He's alive in you. Can I get an amen there? And the life I live, live, I live by the faith of the Son of God who loved me and gave himself for me. Amen. And so he's in me now and he's in control of me, and I'm and I want to do what pleases him. It's like I want to do what pleases Betty. Sometimes that I can really mess up on that. When Betty and I first married, I was a country boy and I'd never been, I'd never had pizza in my life. I'm a country boy. This was a long time ago, you kids don't believe it, but there was no, I'd never had pizza. And so I went out with a group of friends from college and they had pepperoni pizza, and I tried, I said, that's taking good. That is good stuff. So from then on, all I want was pepperoni pizza, because that way I knew it was good. And then one day I found out Canadian bacon was even better. Can I get an amen? And so Betty and I go out on a date, and back in those days you just got half and half. You couldn't do all this mixing and matching they do nowadays. And so I told Betty, I said, What? Let's get Canadian bacon. Well, Betty's thinking she knows I like Canadian bacon. And she said, Well, let's get half pepperoni, because she knew I like pepperoni. But I wanted Canadian bacon. I didn't want the canononi. I moved I graduated from pepperoni. Amen. And so when the pizza came, I started eating the Canadian bacon. And she said, What are you eating the Canadian bacon for? And I said, Because that's what I said I wanted to order. You said you wanted pepperoni, so you eat the pepperoni. She said, I ordered pepperoni for you. I said, I ordered pepperoni for you. My whole point. You love Jesus. So how what's he? Does he want us to pray for these missionaries? He wants us to be interested in these missionaries? Does he want us giving? What's he want to do? I just want to let him live and love through me. Father in heaven, please do a work today. Bring honor and glory to your. name. Motivate us to give the amount of money you want us to give. Motivate us, Lord, to go to the mission field if that's what you have for us. And God in every way bring glory and honor to your name. And I give you praise for all in Jesus' name. Amen.